Sunday, October 4, 2009

Christian Belief/Faith/Reason.

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On this Post let us examine Christian Belief/Faith/Reason. I shall not attempt to answer any questions. You have as much right to your belief as I have in mine.
When a person tells me they are a Christian it only describes a religion in the broadest of sense and tells me nothing of there selves in particular. However It does tells me they believe in the Bible and therefore in Satan.
How do they practice? Are they a no sacrament Christian? A two sacraments Christian? Or a seven sacraments Christian?
Almost all have adopted the Roman Catholic Apostles Creed. And believe in the Father, the Son, Jesus [Christ (anointed one)] and Holy Ghost, which has been recently changed to Holy Spirit by all with the exception of 'The Holy Ghost Fathers' [a Roman Catholic Order in Africa]. These men will announce to you that they are a priest of the Holy Ghost, which I found out having the privilege of recently meeting one from that order.
At the beginning of the Apostles Creed every monolithic religion joins for the first four words: I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD. Even the Deist Framers of our constitution confessed same in their meditations and prayers to The Creator, Providence, Natures God. The names for God by those of the Deist belief.
As soon as God becomes the Tritium, Christians stand alone, although from the same book, theirs is from a later slant or continuation of the story; losing the Jew and the Muhammad [who  were already standing apart from each and everyone else].
A Quote from Don Stark below:

"Christians believe that when Adam and Eve sinned in Eden and turned away from God they brought sin into the world and turned the whole human race away from God. The doctrine absolves God of responsibility for the evils that make our world imperfect by teaching that Adam and Eve introduced evil to a perfect world when they disobeyed him. An alternative understanding of the story of the fall emphasizes that Adam and Eve did wrong because they 'gave in' to the temptation of the serpent in the Garden of Eden." 1
"Surely the eating of forbidden fruit is no infraction grave enough to have brought the wrath of God down on all humans, none of whom were born at the time of the infraction, and none of whom were guilty except Adam and Eve. To insist that god was justified in condemning all humankind because of the infraction of their first parents is to make nonsense of our God given moral compass...." Don Stark

The description from Genesis3
In a common traditional Protestant interpretation, Satan, in the form of a snake, convinces Eve that God has lied to her and her partner Adam concerning the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. It convinces her to eat the fruit of the tree so that they will become as gods. . Adam later follows suit. By this act, sin entered the world for the first time. With it, death also enters the world. (The Church has taught that before this event, animals lived forever, and without bloodshed; there were no carnivores.) God curses the snake, Adam, Eve and even the earth itself. The sin of Adam and Eve becomes imputed to all of the descendants of the original couple i.e. to the entire human race to the present day. This is often described as the fall of humanity. A massive gulf was created by Adam and Eve's disobedience which can only be bridged by the salvation offered by Jesus Christ's atoning execution. Today the Roman Catholic Church differs from most Orthodox Catholic Churches due to the Publishing of the Age of Reason which explained that the Jews always understood that story as an allegoric tale and the Church made this allegoric tree a real tree, which now became the reason, the sole reason for the appearance of his son to save all humanity teaching them to follow the new covenant and regain heaven. By doing this under the orders of Emperor Constantine  the only numbers of converts they got were Gentiles. The Jewish temples had no record of Jesus being ever among them. If you don't believe that ask any scholarly Rabbi today. Of course if you still believed Midas and got beheaded, that gave the highest reason for Gentile converts .
Yes, indeed, the Roman Catholic Church deviates somewhat from the Protestant interpretation. They acknowledge that Genesis 3 is not a precise historical account of the events involving  the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. However, they teach that it is based on a historical event.
"The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents

Do you remember when you watched a talk by your President on TV. You felt you understood what he said. Then came the opposite party giving his rebuttal. He had an entirely different explanation from the original meaning you understood. Now you were not so sure anymore. It is an art. Look at these two contradicting scriptures below. You know what they imply. God is contradicting himself. AHA! Ask your preacher. He or she will explain that is not what he meant. You know Jesus is Love. You will feel embarrassed that you even brought it up. Turn and leave as a puppy with his/her tail between his legs

Deuteronomy 24:16 (New International Version)

 16 Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin.

Exodus 20:5 (New International Version)

5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,

The Mosaic Code in the Pentateuch, the first five books in the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) defines 613 behaviors that believers are expected to either adopt because they are not sinful, or avoid because they are wicked. "248 were positive; 365 were negative." 1

I had received an E-mail from a  Black Lady friend of mine.informing me how the media is not giving the facts of how President Obama is trying to help both black and white, giving  all people Health Care Coverage. She felt they were discriminating racially against our President. There are many that feel the same way in all races. Below is  my thoughts:
Never allow oneself to be upset with the ignorance of people. Each wants to be more greater than the other. In the middle east where our religion springs from the Egyptians thought they were the chosen. Then the Jews copied from them and had god tell them they were the chosen, Then the Gentiles , although not of the mid east culture, through their Emperor Constantine [in realizing the control it would help bring back to his weakened Roman Empire] made Christianity the official religion and the Gentiles were told the Jews were out because they rejected the Christ as the cornerstone and god made a [new covenant]: adopting the Gentiles as his favorite. This expansion to the Gentiles happened in the 4th Century of our Calendar, after Constantine ordered the Christian sects to get their act together in order for him to endorse them. He gave them a huge sum of money to rule by a yea or a nay in writing a bible the State could approve through his chosen cooperative Bishops. Then in the Sixth/Seventh Century Muhammad sprung up Excerpt from Thomas Paine Age of Reason:["When I am told that the Koran was written in Heaven, and brought to Mahomet by an angel, the account comes to near the same kind of hearsay evidence and second hand authority as the former. I did not see the angel myself, and therefore I have a right not to believe it".  Http://
/part1.HTML#2] and the same angel that told Mary she would become the mother of the son of god, now appeared to Muhammad telling him that the Arabians were always the chosen and that the Jews did not tell the truth in making themselves the chosen ones. So it seems this all started falsely by leaders who wanted to be in control of their sheep.(Sheep is an excellent descriptive word because they are stupid and follow even that which leads to their death). Knowing these things protects me from falling into the destructive pit of discrimination so I rest easily as the puppy dog to the right laying on this pillow. With Love in the Creator of all, I remain your friend Al.

We only need the heavens in their vast array to lead us to the eternal and infinite truth (veritas). The motto Novus Ordo Seclorum was coined by Charles Thomson in June 1782. He adapted it from a line in Virgil's Eclogue IV, a pastoral poem that expresses the longing for a new era of peace and happiness which was written by the famed Roman writer in the first century B.C.

Unfinished To be continued  Al.

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